Vortexblast's work, drawings and etc... thread.

[vortexblast]

I just want to keep everything organised. So from now on, every drawing I do such as drawings (duh), comics, sketches will go here. At least it's better to have one thread than making multiple for just one drawing.
Comments and crits are welcome.
OK, I'll start with this.
vortexblast.deviantart.com/#/d3evfs8 That's my deviantART BTW.
How's the colouring? And I already know that the left shoulder is a bit wrong.

[Crombie]

the colouring is nicely done. and the car looks cool (did you use visual reference?). your perspective seems to look very accurate, maybe a little off cause of the curvature near the bottom of the building. I think you drew too many wrinkles on the guy's clothes though, and it makes it a little confusing. his head also seems a little small, however that may be part of your style. also his right shoulder should be higher at that perspective and the helmet needs more of an angle to make it look like he's looking forward instead of his head being at an awkward angle. the right foot seems to have a shape, but it doesn't have form.

I could add more but that was what came to mind first.

[vortexblast]

Apr 26, 2011 16:16:30 GMT -5 Crombie said:

the colouring is nicely done. and the car looks cool (did you use visual reference?). your perspective seems to look very accurate, maybe a little off cause of the curvature near the bottom of the building. I think you drew too many wrinkles on the guy's clothes though, and it makes it a little confusing. his head also seems a little small, however that may be part of your style. also his right shoulder should be higher at that perspective and the helmet needs more of an angle to make it look like he's looking forward instead of his head being at an awkward angle. the right foot seems to have a shape, but it doesn't have form.

I could add more but that was what came to mind first.

For the car, no visual reference, my own creation. Although I was a bit inspired of the shapes of an old car.
Regarding his head, if I try to make it bigger, then it wouldn't look entirely realistic because I was aiming at a seinen type of guy here (it's a mature man, around 30+ years old). I did use correct proportions though, the body height is 2x the head and the legs are the length of the body + head. The shoulders, the helmet and the feet, I do agree that I did those 3 wrong and I kinda regret it but then, this was done 100% using Photoshop so I didn't have the sense of perspective of the body when drawing it.
For my next drawing, I will try to aim at a more shonen type of person and fix the feet, hands, shoulders and clothes wrinkle. I will try to draw on paper first.

[PJCzar]

As im sure has been said the helmet is too small, particularly in the "chin" area. its too close to his neck.
the perspective is great iwht only one problem like yajiko said the ground under the right garage door sort of curves downward. this would be fine if the other lines on the building compensated for this curve.

[vortexblast]

I've got some drawings but these are only sketches for the moment, that's why it isn't in my deviantART but I just want your opinion on these.
It's part of the GHOSTS: Awakening series.
Click on images for full size.

[vortexblast]

Made 2 more drawings, one went to my deviantART ane one that I'm not happy with but will make it better by inking it in Photoshop. This is just a sketch.
The first one.
vortexblast.deviantart.com/#/d3fl0m8
I was only trying to colour using colour pencils. Not pretty in my honest opinion.
The second one.
Click thumb for bigger picture.

For this one, I wanted to try something completely different. I tried my best for this one but left a bit cold because there were some little things that I wasn't happy with. And the frame with letters and numbers, lines and the little center square represent a Digital Single Lens Reflex camera viewfinder.
Comments and crits for these two and the last two?

[someusername]

Could you try and explain what we are seeing on the pictures?
The 3th last one from this post, looks like it's a cover idea for example- I like the way it's set up, still it looks very empty.

For the last picture before this post.
Around the guy's stomach, is that supposed to be her arm?
Cause compared to her other, and to her elbow- where it might be- it looks really loong.
Also for movement, did she just jump on him? or is he walking with her?

[vortexblast]

The 3rd last one what you are seeing in the back ground are black lines. I tried to play with perspective and wanted to give the effect that the lines are coming towards the viewer. Never bothered filling the last half of it. I was afraid that I might run out of ink. In other words. Yes, it's an artistic cover.
For the last one. As I've said, I wasn't particularly happy with it. I was excited by the idea but I was disappointed with the execution, too many revealing mistakes. I wanted to try something completely different that means complicated body poses. And yes, her arm is too long. And she just jumped on him.
Thanks for the C&C.

[Crombie]

hopes some of these help.

yuumei.deviantart.com/art/Head-Perspective-Chart-111580222

crashdummynl.deviantart.com/art/Perspective-V1-1-80130317

fox-orian.deviantart.com/art/Perspective-Composition-Pt-1-118068853

coelasquid.deviantart.com/art/How-to-draw-all-sorts-of-crap-104342407

alenalane.deviantart.com/art/Proportions-141686378

these are some basic anatomy and proportions tutorials. I still say its a good idea to draw from life for 1-2 years or at least from visual reference for some practice before drawing without it. ^.^;

[someusername]

Looking at it now.. I'm really not sure if I feel that her arm is too long.
I guess her left arm could be laxing, a little bent down behind he's back..
But I really can't tell- so don't listen to my critism on that, seeing as even I'm not sure about it'

I was thinking she had just jumped on him though, so you did well to show that : )

[vortexblast]

Thanks yajiko for the links. I will use them for my next drawing (the head perspective will help me a lot). I've been drawing for more than 1 year without the use of heavy visual reference because they restrict me. I always look at other mangakas work such as Tsutomu Nihei, Hiroyuki Asada, Ogure Ito, Daisuke Moriyama and then analyse their proportions and the way they draw but I have never copied a single character that they draw but all of the techniques they used, I put them on my drawings.
I have one in progress right now. It will come later this day or tomorrow.

[vortexblast]

You might notice that I constantly put drawings almost each day.
Here's another one.
Click on thumb for larger pic.

I really want to perfect my drawing style so that I can achieve at least something truly amazing. In all of my drawings, there's nothing that I consider a "chef d'oeuvre".
I know, I deliberately misplaced the ear. Silly me.
There's one thing that I can criticize though in my drawings especially this one. It feels soulless, cold or dull. There's no life in the characters like if they were stones.

[someusername]

You are posting often, these past few drawings, are they something you did recently and then posted, or something you had laying around?

I disagree with you on your own critizism though.
I'm not sure what you were going for, but I wouldn't say these people look like stone.
The way I look at it, they are both experienced at what they do, and they are looking back at a rockee.
I obviously don't know the setting, but as an example- if those 2 were monster hunters, they would have been in the buisness- whereas the person they are looking back at only just joined the crew.

Although that probably isn't what's going on, your Chapter says "A new Beninning" so maybe those 2 are some people he could have just met?
I'm only guessing because- if I'm right, it means that you managed to make me understand it- only with your drawing.

Art wise I like this one alot better then you'r previous posts.
If anything, the girls arm maybe looks a bit odd'..
And the guys clothing doesn't stand out enough- compared to the background.
The girl has the same problem actually.
I suggest giving them a more clear outline

What do you draw with?
And what did you use for the picture?

[vortexblast]

Yes, these are recently done drawings, not a drawing that was just laying around here for the past 2 weeks. I draw a lot because it's my diversion. It helps me at least, keep my life interesting and to forget about bad things that happened in my life.
I will keep the storyline secret until I can finally draw properly. If you want a sneek peek, go look at my last thread markcrilley.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=arttalk&action=display&thread=1611. Only a few of my close friends know it but what I could tell you is that there are some monsters involved but I wouldn't call them "Monster Hunters".
They are not looking at a rookie, but you can say at a camera. There are only two of them. One is already experienced (the girl "Helena Cortella"), one is a novice but with a hugely powerful power that he can't yet control it (the guy "Suono Himmel").
I only used a mechanical pencil for the outlines and a standard HB pencil for the shading. No inking... yet.
And I use a scanner to transfer it in my computer.
I will do another drawing, hopefully it will be better but I have exams in the coming days.
And I keep posting here because it's the only forum that I know that it has a section dedicated for direct feedback of our work.

[vortexblast]

I finally finished this drawing just now.
It's still part of the GHOSTS: Awakening series, one last drawing and I will continue with my manga.
Click image for a bigger view.

There are still some mistakes but it's very possible to fix it, mainly the hands but that will take some time.
The guy you see here is Matiel Noir. He is very rarely seen in the story but his presence is still there as if he was a ghost. He is the leader of the "Nucleus" group, a secret organisation that deals with abnormal events such as the appearance of unknown dangerous creatures. One day, he will suddenly disappear in the story and his fate will remain mostly unknown. Note that this is not a story, it's just a short background of the character.

[suuupppaaa]

Wow, you're good. Good clothing designs, good looking characters, there's just a few things I think you should touch on. When you're a side profile, make sure that the lips aren't level with the nose (unless that's how you want him to be drawn lol) and try to draw the hands bigger, they should roughly be almost the same size of the face. But that's all I gotta say to criticize, AWESOME!!

[someusername]

#Latest Drawing

I'm not sure if you got different styles and are working those, or if you'r just improving really fast.
At any rate it looks really good, and I can't think of anything to critizise.

[vortexblast]

Finished another drawing. It's quick, it's dirty but I love that roughness, dirty effects and the composition in this drawing.
Part of the GHOSTS: Awakening series yet again.
Click image for bigger picture.

I did, yet again messed up the hands but I don't really care. I pretty much nailed the hair right .
I should explain the character.
Main Antagonist
Name: Hoval
Age: 175
Height: 187 cm
Specializes in different types of martial arts and use his ability to control atoms and matter to exterminate his enemies.
He is the leader of the NERCO clan/group that many, many hundreds of years ago, fought against earth thus the creation of after that war, DTR "Data Tek Revo" and "Nucleus".
The NERCO group doesn't come from earth, they are considered to be coming from a parallel universe where dystopia is only present. They were able to open a gate that linked these two worlds together but the reason why they invaded earth is still unknown. Some speculates for world domination, some speculates for power or something very dark.

[vortexblast]

It's been a long time that I haven't drawn anything. My drawing skills are getting rather dusty. It's time to dust it off.
It's far from being done yet. I still don't know if I'm going to colour it.
I know that it's just a sketch but at least, it's enough to point out some wrong things and put comments.

I will update as soon as I have done cleaning up the drawing and inking it.
But at least, what are your comments?

[Learner]

not bad. I think you need some improvements on the hands and the face. Keep it up.

[vortexblast]

Finished cleaning and inking my drawing. I still don't really get how to ink very clean lines in Manga Studio EX 4.0. I need to look at the manual again.
I think I will make two versions. One with toning in black and white, the other in colour.
It's almost finished.
Where should I improve it again?
Edit: I don't know why but I like the rough version more. The cleaned one feels... cold. I think I need to fix the mouth, eyes and probably the hair also. They look like 70's glam rockers.

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[Crombie]

The eyes look a little odd to me. can you try to make them more 3 dimensional in appearance?

[vortexblast]

I finished the black and white version. Rather than going with the oldschool way using screen tones, I use gradients and brushes using Photoshop.
Fixes includes the hair, eyes and mouth.
What do you think now? I might add the background later on. I'm tired now...
This BTW, is from the "Nautilus" series. It's a story that I'm currently working on. I don't think I should post it here (unless you guys let me) because it might be too "seinen". In other words, it contains disturbing and morally wrong contents.
And the person behind the guy with the sword on its back is actually a woman. Just so that you don't get it in the wrong way.
Please comment and crit.

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[someusername]

Wauw!
It looks beasty.

The person on the left shoulder, has a too long tongue.
and the outline does look a bit gritty, but you said that yourself already, still good.

[vortexblast]

someusername
It was supposed to be that way. She is very seductive and very erotic but at the same time, very dangerous like a snake. Beautiful but one false move, you get bitten.
Anyway...

Made another drawing, wanted to try something different now. This is a first for me, I have never tried to draw many people in details before. There are things that I didn't quite like (like the hands) but overall, I'm pretty satisfied.
BTW, the GHOST 12/36 is intended to be not finished. He is in half invisible mode. It's a hugely powerful cyborg after all.
I will add the description for it later.
But can I haz crits and commentz?

[vortexblast]

Ok time for a little background for the characters in GHOSTS: Awakening
Main characters:
-Suono Himmel:
Half Italian, half German, his parents moved to Japan during the mid '90s. He's born in Japan and has since lived his life in the land of the rising sun. He's a 16 year old high school student studying in Japan aiming high in life and wants to be an engineer in the future. He has a scar in his right eye that he got since birth, it's believed that it was passed from his ancestors. Little does he know that he holds a massive power, capable to manipulate electricity and use it as a weapon.
He has a massive crush on Helena.
-Helena Cortella:
She's also Italian but her mother is Japanese. 16 Years old, she goes to the same school and is in the same class as Suono. She has some feelings to Suono but not very deep. She is very skillful at kendo and sword handling but also, her power is the ability to manipulate the wind.
-Icare:
Icare is unique in every way, he speaks very fluent Japanese, English and French but also another incomprehensible language that is believed to be not from planet earth. He mostly lives alone, somewhere not very clear and doesn't have much money. He was first discovered by Matiel and asked if he wants to join his "Nucleus group". He strongly denies and attempts to kill Matiel which he failed miserably. He is very vicious and can easily get out of control.
-Ange de la Galle:
She comes from a rich, bourgeois family in Paris, France. Sadly, her family went bankrupt from a strange deal that went very sour. Her house was burned, her parents were tortured and killed. Fortunately, she escaped with her brother and they lived on the streets. Her brother would steal food, money and go as far as robbing just because he wants to take care of her sister. Ange meanwhile, loves to read books. Her brother would then go to drug dealing but got killed during a shootout. Traumatized by the events, she wanders alone, walking to an unknown destination when one day, a young nun takes her to a special secret church where her life would change to the good, forever.

I will develop Hiro Akatsuka and the GHOST later on.

[vortexblast]

It's been a long time that I haven't drawn anything, mainly because I was stuck with this drawing but also because I was too tired to do it.
This time, it's Nautilus X GHOSTS: Awakening, a crossover between two related stories and two different characters. To the left is Hikai Minami, a legendary killer that brutally murdered three school bullies and dreams of destroying everything in its path and to the right is Suono Himmel, a 17-18 year old and soon to be leader of the Nucleus group in Japan that fights against creatures from a "parallel world" but keeps the evidence hidden from public view.

There were things that I didn't like but I was very pleased with Hikai. BTW, Hikai is holding a sword and Suono, a small rifle (I'm not an expert on drawing guns). It's still in the sketch phase so small details such as the background, the fence and the wiring on top of the fence is done quickly.
Comments or crits?

[dvandom]

Given that the shadows imply that their backs are very close to a wall, the rifle is going through that wall. It's also a pretty awkward grip, especially since the trigger guard is generally well away from the center of mass of a rifle and he'd have to be using his other fingers to keep the barrel from dropping down. You'd get both a more believable grip and better interaction with the environment if you drew the rifle angled up and slightly across his body like this angle: / Then the tip of the barrel could be against the wall, helping support it in an otherwise one-fingered grip. Just make the shadows darker and sharper near the point of contact.

---Dave

[vortexblast]

dvandom
I know that the rifle is very poorly drawn because I'm very bad at drawing guns. The next time I draw him with his gun, I'll make sure to draw the gun first before the hand and fingers. Thanks for the comment.
Anyway, I don't think it's necessary to critique this one because it's a fan art and a tribute to one of my favourite manga "Monochrome Factor". It's just to show how I draw the characters from the manga. I think that I'm very influenced by Sorano Kaili style (the mangaka that made Monochrome Factor).
I don't know how it turned out dirty but I will colour it sometime later.

[vortexblast]

Here's the finished tribute, fan art or whatever you want to call itof the drawing above.

vortexblast.deviantart.com/art/Monochrome-Factor-Tribute-212832384
Inked using Manga Studio, painted using Painter 12 (first time using that program), finished and adjusted in Photoshop CS5.
Painter 12 is a nice program to paint or colour but it has a lot of problems, mainly very slow brushes that lags. I have a pretty fast computer but some brushes are slow to the point it's impossible to use.
It's why it looks bad...